Dunarea la cazane

Am platit zilele trecute un weekend la Cazane pentru care oferta suna asa:
" Super excursie la Dubova! Doar xxx Lei in loc de xxx Lei pentru 2 persoane: 2 nopti de cazare + pensiune completa (3 mese pe zi) + croaziera in Cazanele Mari + vizitare 2 pesteri + excursie pe muntele Ciucaru Mare si la cascada Punicova "

Zona e mirifica, din pacate dupa ce am platit, mi-am pregatit si caiacul si alte cele, m-au anuntat ca nu se mai poate, e ocupat :)

Totusi fiindca n-am reusit sa ajung desi imi doream foarte mult sa acced si sa padelez zona, am postat aici pentru a reinvia topicul, poate altii au fost mai norocosi decat mine si au impresii proprii de impartasit .

Anul ce vine as dori sa lansez barca in acea zona si sa fac o croaziera cu familia pe tot parcursul Dunarii, pana la Marea Neagra .
Evident, cu vele :) .
Minunat ar fi sa mentinem legatura pentru ca de-a lungul traseului avem multi prieteni cu barci, cu care ne-am putea insoti si distra in regim de croaziera autohtona.
 
Am reusit sa ajung anul trecut,este superb,am cazat la o mini pensiune(mare pescar propietaru),am avut la noi gonflabilele,atentie la vipere insa ,nu este indicat sa stai prea aproape de peretii cazanelor,anu asta mi-am propus o pescuiala pana in cazane ,la scrumbie,sper sa reusesc o ieseala de 4-5 zile.


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Am fost cu caiacul la Cazane, atat vara cat si iarna. Trebuie sa scormonesc dupa poze sa pun cateva.
Partea neplacuta este ca ai nevoie de aviz de agrement de la FIECARE post de politie de frontiera pe care il tranzitezi. De exemplu, pentru o tura de 30 de km de la Svinita pana in golful Mraconia, am avut nevoie de doua avize, unul de la postul PF Svinita si unul de la postul PF Orsova. Culmea e ca fiecare post avea propriul formular, iar datele pe care trebuia sa le comunic difereau de la un formular la altul. Teoretic, ar fi trebuit sa ma prezint personal la fiecare post sa fac cererea (care se aproba, nu e problema) cu cateva zile inainte de a face tura. Cererea odata aprobata, e valabila pana la sfarsitul anului respectiv, cu conditia ca la fiecare revenire in zona, sa dai un telefon la PF si sa anunti "Sunt Icsulescu, am avizul Nr. din data..., vin in zona in data de ...".
Practic, am reusit sa ii conving pe cei de la posturi sa imi accepte formularul completat si trimis prin fax, le-am explicat ca nu e usor sa vin de la Timisoara ca sa fac o simpla cerere, iar apoi, in alta zi, sa vin sa fac tura.
Desi ambele posturi de politie de frontiera cu care am avut treaba apartin de acelasi inspectorat judetean (Mehedinti), mi s-a spus ca nu pot face o singura cerere la inspectoratul judetean, trebuie la fiecare post.
Am intrebat ce s-ar fi intamplat daca as fi venit in tura fara sa anunt si fara sa obtin aviz. Mi-au raspuns ca nu foarte mare lucru, dar riscam sa fiu somat sa trag la mal, sa fiu legitimat. Poate chiar sa porneasca vreo salupa dupa mine pe apa ca sa ma legitimeze. Avand insa aviz si fiind anuntat pentru ziua respectiva, toti militarii din teren fusesera informati (presupun ca au o lista cu cei care in ziua respectiva desfasoara o activitate de agrement aprobata) asa ca nu riscam sa fiu legitimat si tracasat.
 
Anul trecut, in august, am avut si eu parte de o excursie in zona. Am vizitat si cele doua pesteri de care a pomenit Florio (cred ca vorbim de aceleasi). Zona e superba m-a surprins in cel mai placut mod. Ghidul spunea ca prin luna mai peretii versantilor se umplu de lalele galbene. Cred ca ar fi de vazut asa ceva. Am aflat multe lucruri interesante ce , ca un ignorant adevarat, nu le stiam.
Despre vipere; am intanlit una la Herculane, tolanita in cararea pe care mergeam cu colega de camera. Am zgandarit-o(pe vipera) cu un bat pana neam plictisit amandoi. Pericolul apare atunci cand pasesti peste un bustean sau o piatra mai mare. Daca ai norocul sa calci pe ea....sayonara. Zona era pustie rau. Asa, de felul lor, sunt niste serpi cumsecade, probabil chiar gospodari in comunitatea lor.
 
Anul trecut, in august, am avut si eu parte de o excursie in zona. Am vizitat si cele doua pesteri de care a pomenit Florio (cred ca vorbim de aceleasi). Zona e superba m-a surprins in cel mai placut mod. Ghidul spunea ca prin luna mai peretii versantilor se umplu de lalele galbene. Cred ca ar fi de vazut asa ceva. Am aflat multe lucruri interesante ce , ca un ignorant adevarat, nu le stiam.
Despre vipere; am intanlit una la Herculane, tolanita in cararea pe care mergeam cu colega de camera. Am zgandarit-o(pe vipera) cu un bat pana neam plictisit amandoi. Pericolul apare atunci cand pasesti peste un bustean sau o piatra mai mare. Daca ai norocul sa calci pe ea....sayonara. Zona era pustie rau. Asa, de felul lor, sunt niste serpi cumsecade, probabil chiar gospodari in comunitatea lor.

E mortal Impaiatu in exprimare :D !
Mai letal decat vipera-gospodina sau crotalul-mestesugar ! :D Imi pare rau ca e mai rar de gasit Impaiatul-hoinar , ca e o specie care duce voia buna la paroxism . Si nu are otrava decat la sticla !
 
ZAAAP! CRACK! (...si paru' cretz!)

Daca ai norocul sa calci pe ea....sayonara. Zona era pustie rau. Asa, de felul lor, sunt niste serpi cumsecade, probabil chiar gospodari in comunitatea lor.

A SHOCK CURE
for Snakebite
The first part of the article tells several stories of cases where high voltage DC was used to treat snakebites.

In the first case, Dr. Daryl Neans, a veterinarian of Pflugerville, Texas, tells the story of a rancher who brought in a dog that was bitten on the face by a rattlesnake 30 minutes earlier. The dog's face had started swelling and because Dr. Neans had previously read an OUTDOOR LIFE article about the treatment, he connected a wire to one of the spark plug wires of his truck then grounded another one to the frame and used the two wires to shock the "dog's face half a dozen times around the bites." The treatment seemed to relieve the dog's pain, but "for insurance, Dr. Neans had followed the shock treatment with the usual cortisone, antibiotics, and tetanus antitoxin, but he's convinced that the shock had already effected the cure." The article explains why Dr. Neans believes in the cure: "Body tissue is negatively charged, snake venom is slightly positive, and unlike charges attract. If ionization of the venom molecules is altered by electrical shock, he reasoned, perhaps they can't attach themselves to animal tissue and destroy it."

Dr. Markus Kryger had read about the treatment in a medical journal when he opted to use it on courthouse employee in southwestern Missouri who was bitten by a copperhead just outside the courthouse. He used jumper cables attached to the spark coil of his car to treat the wound after giving the woman a tetanus shot and disinfecting the bite. "Within the hour, the puzzled patient was back at work." Dr. Kryger became convinced that electrical shock could deactivate snake venom because of the chemistry of the poison. Besides proteins and enzymes, venom contains copper and other trace metals whose electrical properties could be easily upset by high-voltage shock, thereby possibly uncoupling what makes the venom work.

Dr. Ronald Guderian is a missionary doctor from Seattle who is given credit for being the first to use high voltage DC to treat snakebite. He has "successfully treated more than 60 cases in the Esmeraldas Province of Ecuador." Based on Dr. Guderian's experience it seems that if the treatment is received within 15 to 20 minutes after the bite has been inflicted then the pain stops almost immediately and no swelling will occur. If swelling has already started, then it stops and the pain soon subsides. Dr. Guderian typically uses a Nova Technologies stun gun with one of the electrodes modified so that the current can be passed directly through the limb by placing an electrode on each side. "All of the successful treatments have been performed with 20,000 to 25,000 volts or more." It has to be DC voltage, too.

The article expresses a concern that someone with a pacemaker might be killed if they were shocked with the voltage from an ignition system. The frequency and duration of the pulses of an ignition system, it is feared, might scramble a pacemaker. "The only medically tested shocking device that is safe for almost all people, including those with heart pacemakers, is the Stun Gun, made by Nova Technologies (2207 Braker Lane, Austin, TX 78758, 512-832-5591)."

"NO ONE HAS EVER USED ELECTRIC SHOCK TO TREAT SNAKEBITE INFLICTED BY SNAKES WHOSE VENOM ATTACKS THE NERVOUS SYSTEM." (ex. cobra) "The only venomous snake of this kind in the United States is the coral snake." The article warns that the high voltage DC shock would not be effective against the neurotoxins in the venom of snakes such as the cobra and coral snakes. Dr. Guderian's success has been with using the Stun Gun made by Nova Technologies. The FDA won't let Nova advertise the stun gun as a treatment against snakebite until further testing has been achieved. There has been some trouble with reproducing the effect of the treatment in the laboratory. It has been proposed that the reason that the treatment has not worked in the laboratory is because those who were doing the testing were using one of the many imitation stun guns imported to the US from Taiwan or South Korea. Another factor in why the treatment does not work in the laboratory is that, in the laboratory, it is tested on small animals.

In the words of Dr. Guderian, "Think about it. Snake venom evolved for the purpose of quickly killing prey. Humans are not snake prey: we just get in the way some times. There may be biological differences causing small animals to be more susceptible than humans to venom. Or it may just be a matter of our much larger size. ....When a small animal is snakebitten, all of it's biological systems shut down so fast that nothing can be done to stop it. When a human is bitten, he has a local reaction, followed by pain, swelling, and possible death perhaps 24 hours later."

The Japanese have reported to Dr. Guderian "that his shock treatment works on people bitten by their venomous snakes." He has also received letters telling of success stories in Peru, Columbia, Argentina, New Guinea and Africa. As an explanation for why the treatment works, the article cites a Texas chemist who suspects that electro-phoresis is taking place. In electro-phoresis, a high DC voltage is applied to a substance to dissociate the compounds in that substance. "Snake venom is a complex combination of proteins, enzymes (which are proteins with biological activity) and metal ions.... The positively charged proteins travel toward the negative terminal, and the negatively charged proteins migrate toward the positive connection.... The chemist suggested that high-voltage shock would cause enough separation to render the venom inactive."

This second part of the article opens by describing the experience of Jim Scroggins, vice-president of Nova Technologies, when he took a trip to Ecuador for the purpose of verifying the incredible claims being made by Dr. Ronald Guderian in regards to the ability of the Nova Stun Gun to treat snakebite. On a hike through the jungle to visit an indian village, Jim was bitten on the arm by a conga ant. The conga ant's "venom can cause a limb to swell so badly that it can't be used for days." Jim claimed the bite felt like "five wasp stings in the same spot." He shocked the wound with a stun gun and "within 30 to 60 seconds the pain was gone." Even though conga ant bites are supposed to swell the whole limb, Jim had no swelling, only a discolored area the diameter of a baseball. Dr. Guderian began the high voltage DC shock treatment, not on snakebites, but originally on stings and bites from scorpions, ants, bees, wasps, and other kinds of insects.

In the beginning he used the ignition systems of outboard motors and chainsaws to treat the stings, but he later was sent a portable, battery powered "buzzer-and-coil" setup from a friend in Indiana. Later on the same friend sent him several Stun Guns to try out. While Jim Scroggins was in Ecuador, a girl was stung on the toe by a scorpion and given the shock treatment with a stun gun. After a few minutes the pain was gone and the girl left the emergency room. After Scroggins got home from his trip to Ecuador, his wife was working in the yard when she was bitten on the hand by four fire ants. "Donna starts getting a reaction to just one fire-ant bite in about five minutes. Then, she goes into anaphylactic shock and can't breathe." In the rush to go to the hospital, the Scroggins took time to treat the hand with "two quick half-second zaps" from a Nova Technologies Stun Gun. On the way to the hospital, the pain had stopped, so they turned around and went home. "There was little or no swelling, perhaps one third of what she usually gets from a single bite."

Dr. Guderian has found out through various sources that shocks have been used to treat scorpion stings for years in places like India. 40 years ago, people who were stung by scorpions were commonly shocked with the ignition system of a motorcycle. High voltage DC can be used to treat other things as well. While in the city of Esmeraldas, Dr. Guderian had the opportunity to treat a child who had been stung on the back by a stingray. He used a wire connected to an automobile's ignition coil and 20 minutes after the treatment the child was back in the water again playing as if nothing had happened.

A Dr. Stoddard, talked to by OUTDOOR LIFE, points out that bacteria, like venom, is largely protein. So are viruses. In Europe, acne is being treated with electricity. Dr. Guderian has treated boils with high voltage DC. According to him, if a boil is treated before it comes to a head, the swelling and reddness will be gone in three to four days. Dr. Stoddard even suggests that in the future rabies may be treated with electric shock. Dr. Guderian is amazed at how well the shock treatment works to relieve pain. He suspects that the pain deactivation process is separate from the deactivation of the poison. The article tells the story of a Texas woman who suffers from severe migraine headaches and voluteered to be treated with a stun gun. She was shocked on the back of the neck and once on each side. The pain went away, but in the morning it was back, only this time much weaker. The process was repeated again and the pain totally vanished. It is proposed in the article that, "the same high voltage shock that upsets the electrical charge of venom proteins may upset the charges in body proteins that signal pain to our brains."


Electic Shock on Venomous Bites & Stings - First Aid Venom Electric Shock
 
Am mai fost intr-o primavara,tot cazat in Mraconia(golf),m-am dus special cu familia pentru un spectacol,aviz amatorilor de pescuit,nu se poate descrie in cuvinte,era prohibitie si pestii(1 m lungime) se bateau in mal ,multi foarte multi ,acel golf parca clocotea,un lucru bun am vazut din partea autoritatilor,erau 4-5 salupe ale PF raspandite pe toate malurile. non -stop pazeau,cred ca aveam pulsul 100-120 de ma furnicau si urechile la acele sarituri de crapi.Am inteles ca acel golf este unul dintre locurile de depunere ale pestilor.
Pacat ca pf .nu se implica peste tot sau nu se doreste...
 
huh! asa multe hartii trebuie sa faci ca sa iesi pe Dunare?
sau e vorba doar de zona granitei cu Serbia care nu e in UE?

si cum se poate afla cate si unde sunt posturi PF pe care vrei sa le tranzitezi?
 
De pe site-ul Politiei de Frontiera Politia de Frontiera Romana - Romanian Border Police
Din pacate, am inteles ca nu doar pe frontiera cu statele non-UE e regula asta, ci e valabila si pe frontiera cu Bulgaria.
E neplacut, intr-adevar, dar hartiile astea le faci o singura data pe an, dupa care avizul ramane valabil pana la 31.12. Daca stii sigur ca vei face mai multe ture de acest gen, e util sa te apuci sa faci hartiile dinainte, apoi doar iti anunti prezenta in zona de frontiera si comunici numarul si data avizului de agrement.
Cunosc si persoane care au facut ture pe Dunare, chiar si pe granita cu Serbia, nu au facut niciun fel de hartii si nici nu li s-a intamplat nimic. Eu am preferat sa fiu cu totul in regula. La urma urmei, nu e o tragedie sa te cheme la mal pentru legitimare, dar nici placut nu este. Cine stie, nimeresti peste un politist mai zelos si iti strica toata tura, te tine la mal si nu te mai lasa sa continui deplasarea, si atunci nu-i chiar distractiv.
 
huh! asa multe hartii trebuie sa faci ca sa iesi pe Dunare?
sau e vorba doar de zona granitei cu Serbia care nu e in UE?

si cum se poate afla cate si unde sunt posturi PF pe care vrei sa le tranzitezi?

Fiind zona de frontiera, trebuiesc anuntati, normal. Oamenii au un perimetru in paza si nu vrei sa te confunde cu traficantii de tigari sau alte cele . :)
Nu stiu daca e musai sa te prezinti personal, eu in cazuri similare am spus datele noastre, locul de lansare si traseul intentionat, telefonic. Catre postul de politie de frontiera unde faceam lansarea.
Ulterior s-au anuntat ei intre ei, ca nu ne-a mai deranjat nimeni.
Totodata am intrebat daca am de platit acea "taxa pentru agrement" de care am tot auzit.
Si politia de frontiera si capitania din zona mi-au comunicat ca taxa nu se aplica celor care sunt in tranzit, ci doar celor care fac agrement intr-o anumita zona . Se poate intelege "pescuit, pick nick, plaja, etc..." .
 
pai... sa zicem ca-mi vad si eu visul cu ochii (in viata asta) si vreau pun barca pe apa la Moldova Noua cu intentia de a face o plimbare pana la Orsova
asta e clar tranzit, nu? dar dau de vreo plaja pe care vreau sa zac la soare 2-3 ore! devine agrement, asa-i? platesc sau nu platesc taxa?
sau o platesc de la inceput ca-i drum lung pana la Orsova si cu siguranta va trebui sa opresc macar la un pom?

cat despre anuntare telefonica, e legala? adica... pot suna si obtine aprobarea dar pana ajung eu acolo aia uita de mine si vin sa ma ia la bete...
sau invers: "am sunat dom'ne! am vorbit! cum cand? acum 3 zile! cu cine am vb? nu stiu, am uitat numele! pai daca nu m-a trecut in catastif e vina mea?"

ma gandesc ca ar trebui totusi o hartie, ceva....
sau daca e cum zice Bogdan, ca hartiile le faci odata pe an... si-i mai anunti doar cand treci pe acolo... pare mai simplu, da...
 
Cu privire la taxa de agrement, mie mi-au zis altceva: si anume ca a existat o taxa de 50 de lei pana in 2010, dar din 2011 nu mai este.

E o nebunie cu legislatia la noi.
E adevarat ca spusele mele se refera chiar la anul 2010.
Dar cine mai poate sti ce se intampla si cand se schimba legislatia, taxele, masurile locale, etc ...?
In 2011 am plecat catre Tomis, trecand podul de la Cernavoda cu taxa de 11 lei , la intoarcere am platit 5 lei aceeasi taxa . E singurul exemplu din viata mea in care taxele s-au modificat in minus ;) .
Dar in aceeasi zi ?
 
cat despre anuntare telefonica, e legala? adica... pot suna si obtine aprobarea dar pana ajung eu acolo aia uita de mine si vin sa ma ia la bete...
sau invers: "am sunat dom'ne! am vorbit! cum cand? acum 3 zile! cu cine am vb? nu stiu, am uitat numele! pai daca nu m-a trecut in catastif e vina mea?"

Ai dreptate, insa functioneaza asa.
Eu am gandit la fel si la finalul convorbirii am intrebat cu cine am vorbit. Mi-am notat ca sa am un reper ulterior.
Acelasi lucru l-am facut la ARBDD Tulcea si la Politia de frontiera Tulcea.
 
In 2011 am plecat catre Tomis, trecand podul de la Cernavoda cu taxa de 11 lei , la intoarcere am platit 5 lei aceeasi taxa . E singurul exemplu din viata mea in care taxele s-au modificat in minus ;) .
Dar in aceeasi zi ?

pai e cum era minunea din Caracal: autobuzul de la gara la centru costa 1 leu si de la centru la gara costa 1.15 lei
(o iesplicatie aveau ei, cum ca drumul de la centru la gara era altul, mai lung putin, nu se intorcea pe acelasi traseu)

ai masurat/verificat podul? poate e inclinat cumva si treci mai repede intr-un sens, deci mai ieftin :D

revenind on-topic: deci e suficienta convorbirea telefonica? ciudat! dar multumesc ptr info!
 
Cred ca aici sunt informatiile necesare:
Politia de Frontiera Romana
La punctul "j" sunt specificate activitatile de agrement, care se avizeaza de Sectoarele Politiei de Frontiera. Nu este necesara intocmirea vreunui dosar, nu scrie nicaieri de vreo taxa. Presupun ca "apele de agrement" in cazul Dunarii in zona Cazanelor, reprezinta 30 de metri de la mal, intrucat pe unul dintre avizele pe care le-am primit erau enumerate si niste reguli pe care trebuia sa le respect; una din reguli era aceea de a nu ma indeparta mai mult de 30 de metri de mal. Inutil de precizat ca mi-a fost destul de greu pe apa sa apreciez corect distanta asta :D In golful Dubova ar fi fost criminal sa respect regula asta, am taiat golful in linie dreapta, ceea ce m-a dus la un moment dat cam la 20 de metri de malul sarbesc si cam la un km (sau mai mult) de malul romanesc.
 
Off Topic:
Mai fratilor, ma bagati in ceata rau de tot! De cate ori am fost in ultimii doi ani sa-mi scot permis de granita de la Tulcea, mi-au cerut permisul de pescuit si buletinul, nicidecum actele barcii sau alte cele. Florio spunea in topicul cu barca pe Dunare de la Oltenita la Sf. Gheorghe, aceleasi lucruri, ca i s-a cerut permisul de pescuit. Stiu ca exista candva acel permis de agrement pe frontiera, dar cand am fost eu, nu.
Si inca o chestie, cei de la Tulcea dadeau permisul cu valabilitate 1 an de la data emiterii, pe cand ceilalti pana la 31 decembrie, indiferent cand il emiteau. Am avut permis de granita pe Teleorman, Giurgiu, Calarasi si Tulcea.
De citit Art. 42 din OUG 105/2001, acolo spune clar ce si cum. :: Legislatia Romaniei :: Ministerul Justitiei - Portal legislativ
 
Ce stiu eu...
1. Permisul de granita se emite de catre Politia de Frontiera pe sectorul de granita aferent judetului limitrof.
2. Exista cazuri de reciprocitate in cadrul Politiei de Frontiera, adica: P.F.Giurgiu cu P.F. Calarasi ( permisul eliberat de P.F. Giurgiu este valabil si in Calarasi, si viceversa).
3. Politia de Frontiera emite mai multe tipuri de permise: activitate de pescuit sportiv/recreativ(unde trebuie sa prezinti si Permisul de Pescuit Sportiv; activitate de agrement in zona; samd.
4. Politia de Frontiera nu incaseaza nici o taxa.
5. Valabilitate permise: din momentul eliberarii pana in 31.decembrie.anul in curs.
6. Accesul in Biosfera Deltei Dunarii se PLATESTE, pe 1zi, pe 7zile si pe un an(anul in curs) pe persoana.
7. Accesul cu barca in BDD, de asemenea, se PLATESTE, in functie de marime, capacitate cilindrica a motorului, durata si natura activitatii.
Nu pot baga mana in foc ca ce am scris mai sus se intampla 100%, deoarece traim in Romania si asta ne incurca tot timpul.
Vant din pupa, baieti
Legendaru'

P.S. Nimeni si Nimic nu ne impiedica pe noi, sa iesim cu barcutele noastre pe ape...
Eu sunt si voi ramane "un haiduc"...
 

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